someday we’ll all “get wrecked” in one way or another

the struggles matter less than what we choose to make of them

We could just block Chippy… but then our ability to see through BS ragebait might atrophy over time… I think that maybe some of the motivation for these types of oversimplified ragebait posts is to promote cognitive or perhaps even spiritual resilience toward the presence of epitomized cliches or statements involving weaponized ignorance.

Either that or they just like watching people fight and enjoy the bits of attention they receive along the way towards the eventual resignation or defeat of some otherwise unsuspecting, not otherwise nefarious party who has just not been honing their practice of the art of ignoring people who demonstrate no willingness to engage in any constructive way in discussions with others

I think that your sentiment about “fat” people is true about 80-90% of the time around the world. Though I have heard that some places literally have “food deserts” in which supermarkets don’t really exist, or the ones that do might not stock healthy options. And in other situations some folks might only be able to afford (financially or executive-functionally) unhealthier options that might either take less time to select or prepare, or cost less money or driving time to procure. I think that’s probably where the downvote is coming from is people who feel unable to escape obesity due to a variety of limiting factors in their day-to-day lives which inhibit them from taking preliminary steps. not to say that going on a walk or taking the extra effort is not within their control, but that some people still struggle with it anyways, sometimes for reasons that seem counterintuitive or like that they should not be a real issue to deal with in practice but wind up being so anyways for some people who have never learned ways around the problems (or haven’t tried all or perhaps any of the different options yet) that they are dealing with.

there have also been decades-long propaganda campaigns by various lobbying groups to sow misinformation about dietary recommendations which leave me a bit more sympathetic to people who fall for the promises of various fad diets which sometimes go around in certain populations, (keto, paleo, plant-based [for health {separate in my perspective from people who legitimately decide for themselves to go “vegan for the animals”}] , fasting schedules [again for health reasons, I know religious fasting also to have a different meaning and origination of intention/purpose for lots of people], etc.)

I think it might come down to some kind of internalized power trip of perceived desirability (to other women perhaps, or maybe their parents or something) by women or girls who promote or attach themselves to those types of toxic notions. It’s like a toned down version of people obsessing over boob size, penis size, butt size, facial shape, hair/skin/nails etc. It’s like there’s no end for some people who go down that route of wanting to be perceived of as perfect in all ways at all times to all people.

It does suck how many people fall into those types of frameworks though. To me it has sometimes felt like, to varying degrees, that my drive to make connections, relate to others, procreate (thanks nature), or seek vindication through others are often at odds with themselves, and that valuing someone for their virtues is not always a typical mode of behavior that people are generally taught to recognize the usefulness of or learn to practice in their own relationships.

I never know what to say when people comment on my height. I try to not be too judgmental of people for their appearances or abilities based upon first impressions, though I also haven’t found many good ways of helping others overcome the trauma of having to deal with numerous people who all seem to operate under limited presumptions about life, power, influence, or imposition of values in an attempt to “universalize” their preferences, adversities, or assessments they have made that often are akin to some type of “root-cause-analysis” statements for determining the motivations for the behaviors of others in their lives.

crass, but also transparently so, which is why they are less effective as ragebait

bro

ok fair enough. i’ve come around to seeing that they way Chippy had initially phrased the gripe had come across as not only transphobic but dementophobic, autism-phobic (didn’t learn this word yet), “predator”-phobic (I think this is a widespread phenomenon for valid seeming reasons), and lolcow(I don’t think I will even look this one up tbh)-phobic as well (by the nature of the implications of choosing to include such descriptors in the first place). I’m just sorry that I had come across as so combative while working to improve my language interpretation skills and conflict avoidance strategies for future discussions with people who have perspectives which seem to not be reconciling with each other on their own.

Seriously thank you anyways for taking the time to keep replying even though you feel that for some reason because I have trouble understanding gender identity that would mean that I also assuredly want to “drill baby drill” (for oil) or enforce the killing of babies or disenfranchisement of mothers at risk of losing their children for medical (or other) complications through the use of the violent rules of backwards laws [or support the use of AI for writing, researching, or creating related tasks, for that matter]. I think it might be a bit worthwhile for each of us to continue opening our minds up to new levels of deficiency or ignorance and to continue working with the tools we are capable of accessing and taking ownership of, to help those around us who seem to be explicitly intending or promoting harmful or otherwise shortsighted actions or beliefs which could hold back the development and rebalancing of the systems of nature we depend on throughout our world as well as the internal drives and doubts which shape our subconscious perspectives or intuitions.

??? who are you talking too/for?

I just realized that there might be a deeper meaning to the attack helicopter/ velociraptor jokes which I had not been picking up on before in that those are aggressive combatant type things which attack often in groups. Damn… ok considering that, I can see where the undertone came from on those examples and I honestly never even thought about how they might be seen or interpreted by a traumatized or otherwise sensitive or proactively inclusive listener as trying to undercut/discount the impact/validity of someone else’s internal experience, on the basis that such a person is presenting as combative, aggressive, or even hunting/conquering in some way. I had only ever read those as people choosing arbitrary, perhaps humorously obscure, examples of creatures or I guess machines that are not typically associated with how one experiences their sense of self, and that such a concept was seeming difficult to get used to in the mind of the person making those types of “jokes” (expressions) which is why they chose examples that would be even harder to get used to (for a wider group of people) to illicit some type of sympathetic response in the (presumably) typical person hearing the rhetoric

Ok idgaf about AI or any LLM, but I’m happy that you like it

again I cannot disagree and I do genuinely think that and hear that all the time, so I am inclined to wonder what point do you have to share with me regarding that aspect of my ability to communicate. Any concrete suggestions or are you just spiteful for some other reason? constructive criticism (aside from “say less” :/ )?

I don’t know how to help you (or myself) if you think an AI could write this shittily about topics, not seem to be able to arrive at a point that means anything to anyone else less than a quarter of the time, and engage with low hanging fruit of bait like the crap that chippy or you are posting. if you have experience arguing with chat bots, I’d not criticize you for your efforts but I might even ask for your guidance or advice depending on your level of competency demonstrated but also on my present level of urgency with dealing with such an entity (since foresight in these types of social interactions is not my strong suit and planning ahead for obscure/difficult/emotionally-involved conversations has especially definitely never been a strong suit for me even with close friends or family in my life)

part of it I think is definitely related to my general struggles with what I think I have heard some people call “object permanence” but not only with physical objects for me it can happen when considering changes in my environment involving the moods or mindsets of people in my life, things that they have been going through that I might have never experienced so it is hard for me to relate to them over, but sometimes though it takes an additional effort to foster the requisite openmindedness needed to try and imagine something I have never experienced, and I often times am only able to hold those feelings for a short time before I need to let them sink within and become dormant for a time, as I think that I am sometimes capable of something akin to the more idealized notions of what some might describe as empathy, in short bursts. But accepting and embodying the perspective that I may perhaps have some limited but nonzero effect of control/influence over everything that happens to me or anyone in my life is something that I often hold copious amounts of reservations over. The so-called locus of control issue that many people struggle with, which sometimes seems to ebb and flow depending of the utilization or continued exploration of one’s agency in their lives (interactions, social settings) where they may be able to vouch for or care for themselves or others in some way that proves some capacity for influence or control to a person who might be perhaps living their life according to preconceived notions or on the script of another person’s framework

this is a type of bigotry too though… “grow a pair” bro are you even real? How do you not see that type of language or “rhetoric” as equally derisive as the “lumping in”? Can’t both statements be harmful (exclusive/reductive) for different reasons?

“Grow a pair” is often interpreted as a suggestion that stupid or neglected people should go punch trees, which has likely rarely helped anyone understand sensitive issues any better, to actually follow through on such types of “advice”

it’s in the same ballpark as “get a life”, “whatever”, or more harsh ridicules like “F-off or direct suggestions that someone should harm themselves intentionally, presumably on behalf of the anguishing speaker, just applied to a different audience, depending on what type of reaction is desired to be invoked by the exclamation of emotion.

you’re not wrong lol. are you for or against the “/s” construct anyways (?) because in my opinion, it feels like a shitty thing to even dare to do, considering how covert narcissism is basically founded on that type of humor of gaslighting some of the people they are interacting with into thinking that they have thought about some type of feeling (deep, personal, vulnerable, challenging, or dissenting) on a deeper level and are just using “ironic” statements to try and remain relevant to the issue/topic without doing the internal work of even processing the questions posed by the original statements which might seem puzzling to readers/listeners upon first impressions, but if one could take enough careful time to think them through or piece them together, might be able to come up with actually much more meaningful takeaways from even simpler statements, pieces of art, or expressions more generally.

I don’t disagree with you, I think basically all humor is in bad taste, but comes from a true intention to express some kind of emotion, as limited in its complexity or rarity as may it be. I generally try to epitomize misconceptions in ways that allow for genuine constructive pushback, to test what I am doing wrong because I often times find that what sometimes I expect to be common decency or typical behavior has been proven to be inaccurate to what my predictions might have been. At various points seeing other people treating others in their life in minimizing ways that I had been able to observe in some limited way, but also sometimes beginning to notice ways that people have perhaps at times been doing some of those manipulative strategies with me, either intentionally or unintentionally. And also sometimes through reflection upon times when it had taken me sometimes weeks to months after an interaction to put together the context or way to interpreting my actions or an expression of thoughts/feelings of general unease or uncertainty about life, the world, or perhaps some underlying unease with the social interaction with another (often seemingly due to lack of perfect socialization on my part) I will realize that many of those times I will have at some point in the exchange acted or spoken out of ignorance in that person’s perspective, and they just did not have the patience to teach me in that moment. so I am interested in improving my ability to be understood on an increasingly precise or “nuanced” level as I learn to both hear and validate the perspectives of others while still being able to use their own language with them to be able to mitigate conflicts of interest while not coming across as intentionally provoking disgust in others through disrespecting of cultural taboos in the various forms they can come in.

Maybe I should still look up who JP is though.

Also I hadn’t heard the term “philbro” or “dementophobia” before today, so I can’t say I regret trying to engage with these discussions, despite me probably inflicting a lot of psychic damage on perhaps you or other individuals who have the misfortune of trying to make any sense of what I am putting down.

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real talk though for what its worth I have met a litany of people throughout my life who have “weaponized” their masculinity or femininity by relying on some cliche about either gender to rationalize some behavior, preference, or perspective that they have about themselves or the world which seem to be toxic or have the capacity to be needlessly harmful to others, or to normalize their bad behavior at the expense of others. and it’s worth mentioning that the couple people I have known who identify as trans in my life don’t ever seem to weaponize their trans identity [is this bigoted phrasing? should I just say gender identity? /g ] in those types of ways (at least not around me or in ways that I have ever been able to feel imposed upon or threatened by, though reading people’s body language or other subtle cues for signals of different emotions has never been an area that I have excelled in, though I know people who are worse than me at it as well)

I identify as someone who would never weaponize their identity.

obligatory /s

How can I become not a transphobe? is transitioning my language the best way?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Repression_(psychoanalysis) [what is the point in sharing wikipedia links again? I forgot]

I identify as not a bigot

Please explain why or how this identifying of transphobia is not directly an attempt to defend Chris, IN THIS CONTEXT, to someone who is autistic, or who may even suffer from some obstinent defiant disorder. FYI: Some people aren’t hardwired for policing others’ verbiage or for having their own language “policed”, and I think that you are using your best methods you know, but tone of a written message often comes across in whatever way is most convenient to a given reader, which is what I think might be contributing some to the source of the problem (in this miscommunication). Could you format your statement that went along the lines of “don’t mirror transphobic language if you don’t want to appear transphobic” in a way that uses the words “should” and “if” in the same sentence? I find often that such a structure can address matters of internal perspective without presenting an imposing presence to the conversation or dialogue.