You judge socialist states by their worst blunders while forgetting half the shit the US did around the world. Then you people argue that socialism could never work-- while living under an economic system that only works for rich pedophiles.
The US was actively trying to get whatever talent they could out of the USSR. It’s called brain drain, and it’s an effective way to prevent rival countries from growing.
Last I checked, people with brains have legs. Unless this happens through mass kidnapping, the best way to do this is to have a good place to live.
Brain drain happened during the Nazi uprising, in 2025 after MAGA took over, and it happens at many game companies that treat their employees badly. But it’s generally poor management and a simple external invitation, not a “stealing” effort.
Why do you think they are arguing? They are comparing.
We all do it every day, it’s unavoidable and will never die until the last human is dust. You need to keep a stiff upper lip and carry on. Be brave! Comparisons can’t hurt you.
It’s relevant since the US is an actual, current threat. Arguements don’t happen in a void, what about the fucking thing happening right now is a valid argument under a lazy irrelevant post like this one
In fact, the USSR itself used it a lot, typically deflecting any criticism from the US with “but you hang negroes” back when that particular atrocity was a frequent occurrence.
If you look at the same source that you’ve provided, you will also see that using the label “whataboutism” is in itself a fallacy and propaganda strategy.
So… irrelevant… your fallacious propaganda strategy is rejected.
“But US”
This argument needs to die already. Someone else being bad is not a counter-argument
You judge socialist states by their worst blunders while forgetting half the shit the US did around the world. Then you people argue that socialism could never work-- while living under an economic system that only works for rich pedophiles.
The US was actively trying to get whatever talent they could out of the USSR. It’s called brain drain, and it’s an effective way to prevent rival countries from growing.
Last I checked, people with brains have legs. Unless this happens through mass kidnapping, the best way to do this is to have a good place to live.
Brain drain happened during the Nazi uprising, in 2025 after MAGA took over, and it happens at many game companies that treat their employees badly. But it’s generally poor management and a simple external invitation, not a “stealing” effort.
Why do you think they are arguing? They are comparing.
We all do it every day, it’s unavoidable and will never die until the last human is dust. You need to keep a stiff upper lip and carry on. Be brave! Comparisons can’t hurt you.
It’s relevant since the US is an actual, current threat. Arguements don’t happen in a void, what about the fucking thing happening right now is a valid argument under a lazy irrelevant post like this one
“But Russia (China’s ally)”
It’s a well- known fallacy and propaganda strategy.
In fact, the USSR itself used it a lot, typically deflecting any criticism from the US with “but you hang negroes” back when that particular atrocity was a frequent occurrence.
If you look at the same source that you’ve provided, you will also see that using the label “whataboutism” is in itself a fallacy and propaganda strategy.
So… irrelevant… your fallacious propaganda strategy is rejected.
Is has been CLAIMED by people defending their own use of whataboutism, sure, but they’re wrong.
They’re literally claiming that it’s a tu quoque (appeal to hypocrisy) fallacy to point out this particular tu quoque fallacy 🙄
Right back at you.